On 2021-09-12 21:59:19, user Swapnil Hiremath wrote:
<reposting with="" minor="" edits="" as="" disqus="" thought="" last="" one="" was="" spam="" for="" some="" reason=""><br /> The authors have undertaken an ambitious project: briefly, taking numerators from the VAERS database, denominators from vaccine numbers from elsewhere. They then perform a ‘harm-benefit’ analysis looking at COVID hospitalization as the only harm. The whole analysis is restricted to the 12-17 age group in whom the concern of myocarditis is admittedly higher.<br /> They report a risk which was anywhere from 1.5 to 6.1 times higher for vaccine associated myocarditis vs COVID causing hospitalization. Vaccines must be bad, surely.
However, several problems are quickly apparent.<br /> 1. The rate of myocarditis is much higher than the ones reported in Ontario: 160/million for 12-15 males compared to 72.5/million from Ontario (which includes Moderna as well - which has higher rates of myocarditis than the Pfizer/BioNTech). Why would this be so? There are many possible reasons, including the overestimation from VAERS being probable cause. On a perusal of the supplement, there are many which are other viral diseases which could be the reason; additionally many descriptions are quite vague (‘the doctor told us troponin was elevated’). It is very easy to submit cases to VAERS, so the numbers reported could be an overestimate - proper case ascertainment with source documents is necessary to be sure of the cases. Needless to say, simple arithmetic to derive 'rates' is also problematic. The VAERS website specifically suggests the numbers should *not* be used for estimating rates.
- It was not clear why the authors chose Jan 1, when vaccines EUA for 16-17 started in March, and for 12-15 in May. In their database, there seems to be one case in March and most of the VAERS reports from May or later.
3.Next, the authors make many assumptions when it comes to who had comorbidities and who did not among the children, and multiply numbers to come up with some crude estimates. It would be useful for a pediatric diseases researcher to assess these assumptions. The 40% assumption of children hospitalized 'with COVID' and not due to COVID is a very crude untruth that the authors and others have needlessly perpetuated on social media with little foundation.
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Most importantly, the authors assume that hospitalization is the only bad thing for children who develop COVID. Some 12-17 years olds have died due to COVID, and some may have had a 1 day hospital stay - their analysis treats these equally and incorrectly. Some teens developed MIS-C. Some developed longer term sequelae. To group them under ‘hospitalization’ seems overly simplistic. Similarly, from perusing some of the vaccine-myocarditis, many seem to have recovered with symptomatic care alone. The authors seem to be minimizing COVID and maximizing vaccine associated adverse events.
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It should be noted that the involvement of children in the first two waves seems to be different than the one we have seen in the last 2 months with delta (for whatever reason - perhaps with lower immunization numbers in these).
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Lastly, the pandemic is not yet done. Many more children are going to get COVID in the next few months and years. We are going to have many more hospitalization, morbidity and sadly many more deaths. There will be long term morbidity and sequalae. We do need better data to assess the risks and benefits. This study is not it.
Unfortunately this study has been picked up uncritically by media and will worsen vaccine hesitancy. This seems unwise in the face of an ongoing pandemic.